Join host Liam J. Ryan on this enlightening episode of The Dealmaker Podcast as he sits down with Jason Graystone, a renowned entrepreneur, investor, and host of the Always Free Podcast. A self-made success, Jason began his entrepreneurial journey at 22 and achieved financial freedom by 30 through strategic investment and business acumen. He has since built multiple seven-figure businesses and is passionate about helping others achieve financial independence.

Jason shares his unique insights on wealth creation, personal development, and overcoming challenges in this episode. Having spoken on some of the world’s most reputable stages and been featured in Forbes for his innovative approaches to trader education, Jason brings a wealth of knowledge and inspiring stories. Whether you’re an aspiring entrepreneur or seeking to enhance your financial stability, this conversation will provide the tools and inspiration needed to design a life of prosperity and purpose.

Tune in as Liam and Jason explore the myths of quick success, the importance of genuine mentorship, and how disciplined financial strategies can lead to long-term wealth. Don’t miss this deep dive into the strategies that have shaped Jason’s journey from adversity to abundance.

KEY TAKEAWAYS

BEST MOMENTS

“If you’ve got six months living expenses in the bank, you ring me up and say, I’ll pay your invoice, but I just want to snag your work. No worries. I’m going to come around. I want to make sure we’ve got a long term relationship going forward. I want to make sure you’re happy. You know, there’s a calmness.”

“I always look at money as time. So how much time you can buy into the future based on your current living costs.”

“If I can get rich, I can make the pain go away. Yeah. If I can get rich, I can make the pain go away.”

FULL TRANSCRIPT

People want to become rich, but they’re not willing to put in the work and I always ask myself, what does it come down to? Is it lack of discipline? Is it lack of motivation? Is it they’re being brainwashed by society, and I think people get so distracted with chasing a shiny penny, and people really do find it difficult to follow simple processes. And people get bored and they get distracted, and if something doesn’t quite go their way, they blame the system, or they blame the person, or they say it doesn’t work. And we know because we’ve been there, I’ve been poor, I’ve been rich, I’ve been poor again, and luckily, I’ve been able to make the money back even easier, even faster. But people do find it very difficult to stay in that process, and if they have some ups and downs, it’s like, oh, that doesn’t work anymore.


Yeah, but I mean, you’ve been through it, haven’t you? I mean, we were in a mastermind together, and he was telling me some, you know, some truths about your own personal journey, yeah, and you went right into the depths of despair and still managed to come out and and rebuild and get it all back. So do you think it is a burning desire based on, like, your upbringing or experiences it have in life? Or do you think it’s just people chasing things that actually they think is a quick buck and then they don’t it’s not sustainable for them, because, you know, does it have to be in you? Or do you think it’s something that you can because everyone that I’ve ever met, it’s like, it’s not really about the money is something deep. There’s always something deeper. It’s something that they’re trying to prove almost.


Yeah, I can only talk from my own personal experience, but ever since I was like, seven, eight years of age, I’ve always had this burning desire to make a lot of money, to protect my family and to prove to the world that I’m going to make it. And yes, that perhaps, is definitely down to what I saw in my upbringing. Not only just that, but my mum was a single parent. She went through a divorce with my dad when I was two. She then had not the best marriage to her second husband, and that was really quite challenging, and there was a lot of violence in that relationship, and there was a lot of upset. And I remember once we were living in a woman’s refuge, and one of my first ever memories was in a cold, dark, damp room, and me and my mom and my brother, who was two at the time, and I was eight, we were eating out of a cold tin of spaghetti bolognes, and I just remember having this moment of this is not how I want our life. And I just associated What if I can get rich, then I can make the pain go away, yeah. If I can get rich, I can make the pain go away. And maybe consciously or subconsciously, in that moment, I made a decision that I was going to become a multi, multi millionaire. So that drove me, and at that time, my big why was get off the council estate, look after my mum and brother. Yeah, that was a driver. This isn’t me. This is where we’re so aligned, I think, like when I I grew up on the same thing, council estate, my dad had left before I was born, had someone else knocked up at you know, I’ve got a sister, like, the same age as me, and he was a gangster and all this kind of stuff. And then all I remember is like sitting in a flat, dark where the electricity had run out, and my mum was in the bath. She was like a prude, so she wouldn’t let me in. So I was outside the door and long corridor, I vividly remember this bailiffs knocking on the door at the time, and I think what I seeked was security. And I don’t think it was necessarily money, because I didn’t know what money was, but, but it was security. It was like stabilization of life. That’s what I wanted. And obviously money is a means to provide that. And I was driven, you know, intrinsically, to provide security for myself and for my family. So when I had kids, it was like, it was like a rocket up my ass, you know, I was like, I cannot have them have the feelings that I had as a kid. So it was like, whatever I need to do to provide that security, I’ll do, and with a buy as a byproduct of that, you just end up creating wealth and building freedom for yourself. So let’s talk about the strategies that are out there. Like there’s a good reason to be skeptical about there is a lot of crap out there, right? There’s people who have who are living, breathing proof of whatever they’ve whatever vehicle they’ve used to get them to where they are, like yourself and me. And then there’s people spurting off just kind of the the hype and whatever’s working and whatever’s getting. Was attention. How do you filter out the noise? Like, what?


Yeah, there is a hell of a not a lot of noise out there. And I think more and more today, people are waking up to the fact that what we’ve been shown through the schooling system, through the educational system, you know, we’ve been told to work the 4040, plan. You know, work 40 hours a week for 40 years, retire on 40% of your pension. That just doesn’t work for most people. People are working 70 hours a week. They’re working into their 70s, their 80s. People’s pensions are hitting the wall. So people are out there right now, and they’ve woken up to the fact that perhaps what we’ve been told for the last 3040, 5060, 100, 200 years, the system is broken, and people are looking for help. They’re looking for support. Everywhere you look right now, everyone’s an influencer, everyone’s online, everyone’s doing videos, and you do have to be absolutely careful who you’re listening to, who you’re trusting. So I have great mentors. I I’m a mentor myself. I invest massively every year into training and courses and great mentorships and mastermind programs, but I make sure that I do the research and the due diligence on who I’m going to be working with. And you know, a lot of people out there, you can get a lot of their help for very low cost. And a lot of people like, if you look at what you do online in your YouTube and your YouTube videos, you pretty much just give it all away anyway, yeah, to build that rapport, to build that trust. So what I would suggest to people is find the person or the group or the team that you gel with, do your research, do your due diligence, dip your toe in the water, test, tweak, repeat, and then start to look to build a long term relationship with that, with those one or two people. You don’t need to go and get help from 20 or 30 people. You know, one or two people can really, really start to change your life?
Yeah, I think that you’re spot on.


I think the difference between a good mentor and probably someone who you shouldn’t talk listen to too much, is what were they doing before social media? I was a trader, a very introverted investor, and you’ve seen my first attempt at a YouTube video. It’s shocking, like four hours to do a four minute video. I didn’t want to do the social media. I’ve had to do that so that I can get my message out to more people. And I enjoy doing that, but primarily I was an investor and a trader and an engineer, like I wasn’t meant for the camera, so whenever I go out on camera, I just want to get the right message to people, and I want to share that with them. And as I say on my YouTube, I give a lot away for free, and you give a lot of value for free as well. But I do think people, I don’t know if people like to because Google’s there, right? You can go and check customer reviews, testimonials, things like that, but people don’t seem to want to do that. I don’t know if it’s frightened that their ego will be hurt, that they’ve been led down a garden path. But I also think, as you said, every experience you’ve had with anyone is always a learning curve, isn’t it? It’s always a it’s always a stair step. So although you might have got scanned or not got as much value as you thought, it was still a necessary step along the way, like I don’t. I think people think that people who are successful, they just had this easy run up the ladder, and luckily, found all the right mentors. Where I’ve had tons of like, where I’ve gone, Oh, do you know what? I paid a couple of grand for that, and I didn’t really get anything from it, and they’re not who they said they were. But I don’t look at it as, like, that’s a scam. I just look at it as that was a lesson, and I needed to do that at that point, because I wasn’t where I should be. Yeah, but now I won’t do that, and I know what I don’t need, yeah. So yeah, you’re right. Sometimes you have to go and do some training to realize that person wasn’t for you, or that training wasn’t for you, yeah. But I think, I think, certainly here in the UK, people very much have a blame mentality.

It’s easier to easier to blame, and people find it extremely difficult to keep themselves to a high level of accountability. So they do the training. They try it, it doesn’t work, and maybe that training was incredible, but they didn’t follow the process, they didn’t put in the hours, they didn’t study enough, and now they’re blaming the vehicle or the strategy or the property or the trading, and it doesn’t work, where actually, if they just stuck with it, ask for a bit more help and guidance. People find it really hard, actually, to ask for help. You know, you think, how many people out there every single day are investing 1000s of pounds on online training courses, which are incredible, by the way, if you use Yeah, and they don’t even log into the portal, don’t even log in, and they don’t put time aside. So you have to be disciplined, and I think you have to be extremely focused, and you’ve got to really be tuned into your. Vision and your why? What is the real reason why you want this extra money? Yeah, because a lot of the time it’s not actually the money, like you said, What’s the real reason behind it? And that might be some pain, that might be something to do with your family, that might be to building a legacy. I also believe there’s a lot of people out there because of the difficult childhood they had, or how difficult is in their workplace, and they’re just surviving, not thriving. A lot of people are led to believe that it’s they can’t be rich, so their belief system is completely riot the wrong way. Yeah, so they don’t even believe they can be rich. It’s mad, I know totally and having the why is definitely important. And part of always free is about understanding what that is, so that you can be yourself. It’s about being free from societal pressure, societal beliefs, and just looking up to people really, and trying to chase what someone else wants. Because a lot of the time, if you look at your life, sometimes it’s like, you know what? I do have enough. I’m only beating myself up because I’m chasing that for them, not for me. So it’s knowing your number, knowing how much you need to have the ideal life. And then once you have that, you can put a plan in place and bolt on a wealth strategy that’s going to help you move towards that, and whether that’s property or investing or trading or online business or whatever it is, it’s definitely possible. It’s just, as you said, it’s such a small amount of people, like small amount of people that have that level of self accountability that makes them take the action sets. I remember I worked out like when I was doing my newsletter. I used to write a 5000 word email every Sunday. I did it for 86 Sundays. That’s like accountability in itself. The idea was just to give action steps to people. And with 5000 people, based on all of the click throughs and the clicker links and people taking action, we worked out about 18 people were actually doing the work, and like writing to us and going, I’ve done this. I’ve done that, 18 out of 5000 and when you when you think of that, and you apply that to everything in life, it’s no wonder that the minority of people just control the majority of the world’s wealth, which is, you know, which is absolutely true. But anyone can take as much of that wealth as they like, right? It’s out there. It’s out there, circulating it. There’s so much money in the world right now, and it’s available for every single person, and there’s actually a lot of people out there. Most people know how to make money, right? Yeah, in some way, might not be making as much as you want to make, but there’s people out there on half decent salaries, but they still are in bad debt. Yeah, there’s people out there on beggar salaries, but retire and they’ve got no money left. So I call it the three M’s, how to make money, how to manage money, and how to multiply money.

Now, most people make money from a job or business. We make money from investments and trading and and property and also business, and I’ve got a great business and but I think there needs to be some major work done on showing people how to get started and actually become an investor and how to manage their money. Yeah, you know, what would be some sort of good tips that you would say on what people can do? Just, you know, people tuning into this now, they earn money, they don’t know how to manage their money? What could be some great things that they could do? Yeah, I always talk about making money and managing money two totally different studies. I’ve worked with people who earn millions and have nothing every month. Literally every month. I work with a trader who was in New York, and he was on one and a half million income via a profit share with the prop firm, and he had no money because he was going every Friday, being the bars with a with a firework, you know, to do all the display around the thing and then blow it, had the whole booth ego, right? And, and I’ve worked with YouTubers, all these kind of rich people that look rich but have no money. I’ve also worked with people who earn no more than 30 grand their entire life, but have millions, like liquid saved, but they’re very like, they’re the ones that have midlife crisis because they feel like, resentful they haven’t lived. And they get to, like, 55 and then I balance, right? You’ve got to have a balance.

You’ve got to enjoy my life, exactly. And the only way you do that is understand the two studies of making money and managing money. So making money is being able to extract money from another human being via fair exchange, or you beat them at a skill, right? So I can box you and beat you and win. Or I can play golf of you and win some money. Or I can serve you in some way, and you give me the money in fair exchange for that. And that’s a great way. That’s a great skill to learn, providing value for people, providing a service that’s going to help them, and you’ll get paid handsomely for it. When you take that money, if you go and blow that on, you know, keeping up with someone, and buy the Lambo or ever, and you can’t quite afford that at the moment, then you’re not going to be wealthy. It’s just going to still be on this hamster, and you’re no better. Often someone who’s just in a corporate job spending his money at the weekend. So you have to learn how to manage the money. And the way you manage the money is you build I always look at money as time. So how much time you can buy into the future based on your current living costs. So you add up what your lifestyle costs. And I recommend everyone works out what their ideal lifestyle costs. So be truthful. Don’t say I want two Lambos on the drive, if you don’t. But I’ve, I’ve had supercars. To me, they’re just not worth it. There’s such a liability. Man, cash cow. Oh, my God, ridiculous. So I still like the Lambos. No, I got that out of my system. And like, for me, that’s not a thing. But if it is valuable for you absolutely. Add it in, price it up, then you’ve got a figure to work with, and that figure is what you want to build towards with money, like, how, how many months can you afford that lifestyle if you’re if your income stopped, that’s, that’s the key. And the way you do that is for investing and and you only, you know, you only get that by assets. Assets, for life is your company. You either buy an asset, or you create an asset.

You can buy an asset which is like a stock or a property, something that will give you a yield, or you create an asset which is a highly leveraged online business. Or, you know, you create a system in your business that no longer needs you and now it’s providing you income without you and your time. And there’s many, many ways you can do that. So what the way that I like to do it is structure it in like a like a pyramid, so very low risk, low return assets for the majority of my cash, and then I slowly build up higher and higher speculation, like into stocks and then into property and then into trading. And the higher you go up that the less allocation is put towards it, but the more skills required. So with property like my, my idea of like stock investing and trading for property is like buy to lets would be like passive investing, yeah, where you just get a smaller return, yeah, and then trading would be buying flipping. And I think you would agree that flipping a property requires more of a skill than it does to buy, to let anyone can buy, to let and think and slightly more risk, because the market to turn on you, you might not get the selling price build. Cost could go up. So there is more of an element of risk. Yeah, when doing something and you have to know where to pick the property. You have to know where you’re selling it to before you bought it, and have the buyers, right? So you’re a trader, basically, and to get to that point, you’ve developed a lot of experience and skill, right? Someone can’t just come in off the street and go, I’m going to flip properties.

That’s ridiculous. That’s just trading. And usually people go broke trying to do that. So going back to your question, it’s basically put most of your money where you’re going to get a lower return, but outperform inflation and interest and in the bank and things like that, and then build a skill that’s going to allow you to accelerate the growth of that in something you enjoy, whether that’s property or whether it’s trading or investing in the stock market or building businesses. One of my friends, Sebastian Bates, he got into trading a little while ago, and he couldn’t handle it, but he was really good at aggressively building businesses. So he said, You know what my speculation is, business, and I’m gonna I can, I can lose half a million in business and stomach it, but I can’t lose half a million trading, yeah, and that’s his thing. So he took his money out of that and went into into business. Very interesting. So I would my answer is like, become an expert in something that you enjoy and resonates with you, and earn your biggest return on that, and then put the money, the rest of the money you earn, the surplus into delegated assets that you don’t have to work for, because that’s ultimately, freedom. Yeah, I think that’s absolutely fantastic. And I was one of those people in my 20s. I I’ve always loved business and entrepreneurship, and I was the kid in school that would sell you wherever you wanted, and I was knocking on doors at the age of 15, you know, 12 hours a day, seven days a week. Actually, when I left school, I left college. So I’ve always been out there knowing how to make the money. Made my first million at the age of 21 made many more millions in my 20 but I had no idea how to manage and it was the lifestyle, it was the fast cars, it was the champagne, it was the first class flights, and made some bad investment decisions, actually, and then it just all went. It just everything went. It was unbelievable. I lost the business. I invested into some bad property. Actually, I didn’t have any mentors, didn’t have any guidance, and I found myself in a very dark place where, after all these years of having, like an extravagant lifestyle, I literally had minus 392,000 pounds, yeah, and it was horrific. So coming back this time around, these last 10 years, high up on my values and my agenda was I. Need someone. I need people around me that can actually teach me how to manage my money correctly, because there’s only so many times you can make and lose, make and lose, make and lose, then you’re going to die. Yeah, and the last thing I want to do is leave my wife and my kids and not having built that legacy so it I just got to a point in my life, and maybe people tuning into this now. If you’re at a point right now where you’re sick and tired of not having money, you got to do something about it. And you know, you can start something really small. You know, it’s not like you have to go and invest 10s of 1000s of pounds every single month. So I’m doing this. And again, I’m not giving advice here whatsoever, but with my son, Charlie. You know, he’s 17. Now he’s working for me. I’m teaching him a skill set of sales, because I think sales is really, really important. Once you know how to sell and communicate and motivate and inspire, you’ll pretty much be able to make money wherever you are in anything you want to do, right? So I’ve got him under my wing right now. He’s learning sales. My daughter’s 19. She’s working for a sales company too, and every single month he gets paid. I sit him down, and the first thing we do is we put X amount of money straight into his Isa. X amount of money straight into his Isa. And I think that’s a great thing. Great. He’s 17. He’s doing that now. And then we figure out what’s left, and then that is what. He then has a budget. He’s got his weekly budget. He’s got his monthly budget. And if people can get into the habit of investing first and then spending less stuff on shit, yeah, yeah, those 345, 600 pounds you’re putting away every month, they will soon compound over the next five or 10 years, like my boy, if he continues to do this, he could be a multi millionaire in his 20s. Yeah, you put five. If you just manage money like that, you unlock part of your brain that allows you to make more money as well. That’s the magic that I can’t get across to people when you have time bought in the bank, you unlock a more creative part of your brain. You become a better parent, better partner, better spouse, better colleague, better boss, and you talk differently, and you see opportunities that you didn’t see before, and you grow your income as a result of having money in the bank. The best example I give to this is like, if you got no money in the bank, you’re a builder, and I’m sure you’ve dealt with lots of builders, and you just say, Look, I’m going to pay your invoice, but I just need you to come around and sort these snags out. Right? The builders agitated because he’s like, you’re attacking my work. You know? What do you mean? There’s no snags. You go around because you because you’re in scarcity mode and you can’t afford to put food on the table. You go around. You’re like, what? You know, this is it? There. You build a bad rapport. They’re not going to pay you what they owe you. So you lose money. They’re not going to recommend you. So you lose money. And, you know, you’re you never got the money. Whereas, if you flip that same story, but you’ve got, like, six months living expenses in the bank, you ring me up and say, I’ll pay your invoice, but I just want to snag your work. No worries. I’m going to come around. I want to make sure we’ve got a long term relationship going forward. I want to make sure you’re happy. You know, there’s a calmness. And you go around and you sort it out, and you do the extra go the extra mile, and you go, are you all happy now they’re gonna go, do you know what? I’m gonna pay you that, and I’m gonna pay you a tip, and I’m gonna recommend you to all my friends. And you become oversubscribed, and then you charge more, because, you know, and it’s just a completely different life trajectory based on having six months living costs in the bank Exactly. It completely takes the pressure off. Yeah, and it makes you feel good, because, again, most people don’t have more than three weeks. Oh, three weeks, three weeks, yeah, three weeks worth of living costs. Yeah, they don’t have that. So you’re constantly in a scarcity mindset, constantly worried about your financial future. And you are right. I, you know, I saw it growing up with my mom. My mom’s fantastic. I love it to bits, but it was tough for her, you know, and I saw the effect that had on her as a mum trying to just put food on the table for us. And, yeah, it was tough going.

So look, we talked about, I love your freems, by the way, making money, managing money, multiplying money. Let’s talk about some juicy multiplying money, because it all starts with mindset that really is it. And I know that everyone needs to get that in their heads, like it’s on you. No one else cares about what life you live. Honestly, they don’t. And two generations time, no one will even remember you, which is, you know, that’s a real wake up call to just make these little 40 years that you’ve got left. Maybe, if you’re listening to this podcast probably get done. Get it done. Build the life that you want. And it starts with a mindset. And now you know that you have to make money and manage money. Let’s talk about multiple multiply.


So again, this was something which I definitely was not very good at, but but now very similar to what you said, my whole mindset is. Have some great cash flowing businesses or do something in life that you really, really enjoy. So I love teaching, I love training. I love mentoring. You’re great, by the way. Thank you very much, amazing. I love, I love doing this stuff and getting the message out there. And, you know, assets for life today, with the UK’s leading property business and wealth training company, 50 full time members of staff year on year, growth. We just had our h1 meeting yesterday, first half of this year, we’re at 18% on last year. More success stories in the company. We’ll get our award ceremony in six months time. And the whole ethos of our business is, serve the client. Serve the client, customer success. Because the more people we can help, the more people are going to rave about us. And then ultimately, I know the money and the profits are going to come so. So it’s about having doing something that you enjoy, where you can make the money, then ultimately manage it correctly. Have have a budget, start to invest delayed gratification. Delayed gratification. This is something people don’t find and then multiply it by becoming that investor and then having the right tax efficient structures, trusts, pension type, products that are legal, that have been checked over with your tax advisors so you and your family can keep the money for genuine generation after generation after generation. Most people have the wrong type of pension. Most people, when they die, the money dies. Most people don’t have lasting power of attorneys. Most people don’t have the correct type of will, and it causes lots of problems for their family and their future. So they can’t multiply the money. The money all goes to the tax man, yeah, and I’m all for paying the tax man, don’t get me wrong, but I want to build generational wealth, and that’s what I mean by multiply the money. So UK business owners, you could probably be in a position where you could get a SAS. So if you’ve got a profitable business, that is a fantastic type of pension where you can have number of different trustees, you can invest into commercial you can do lots of great stuff with that and and you can put money into that SAS every single year. So yeah, I think it’s important to plug money and think long term and say, Well, where do I want to be in 10 years? Where do we want to be in 20 years? What do I want to leave for my family? And then get the right advice to make sure you have the right structures so you and your family hold on to the cash.


Amazing. And one of the things I’d add to multiply money as well is if you are making money well and you’re managing money well, you can then take a portion of that managed money and literally double it by putting it into sensible speculations. Right? So one of mine, for instance, was a startup. I’m able to now be on a board where I’ll look at a pitch deck come through, I understand the product. I take a bit of my cash because I’ve managed it wisely. I stick it into the thing. Five years later, they do an exit. And, you know, you get a 600% return or something crazy, you know, and you get some good ones. And as long as you’re managing it well, and you’re not losing your shirt by putting everything in there, because you’re managing your money, you can really multiply your money, like you just you get to a point where you can’t help but make more. If you’re doing the first two, if you do the first two, you can’t help but multiply that. Yeah, that’s what I would say.


Yeah. I think it’s important. And ultimately, for me, it’s like, I want to be an investor. I want to be as hands off as possible. I want to master a few strategies. So property for me, like I’ve got a great team, and, you know, we do lots of different types of deals, and I use joint venture funding, use my own money, use money in the businesses. Trading, for me is really important, you know, putting money into my kids ices every year my own I says, and maximizing that’s really important. Having some more speculative stuff around Bitcoin and other things like that is important. So, yeah, you get the first two, right? It makes the third a lot easier. And it doesn’t take that many years to really have your money start compounding. And then you’re doubling your money, doubling your money, doubling your money. So I guess the last question, this is a joint podcast, so we’re both having just a discussion, which I’ve really enjoyed, by the way, someone listening to this is 3536 maybe late 30s, early 40s, they are not currently pursuing the life that they want, and they’re bit they’ve got this, I don’t know about you, but I’ve found a lot of people, when they get to, like, late 30s, hit 40, maybe early 40s, they have this kind of realization and a bit of a panic where it’s like, I. Do? I am halfway through my life nearly. I’m not quite on the track that I want to be on. There are opportunities out there. I don’t know where they are. I don’t know what’s the way to start. This is a big question, but what would you say to someone like that? I said, Great. It’s a great question. And there are 10s of millions of people in the UK right now that are probably in that position, I would highly suggest getting around a great mentor or a group of people in a mastermind, a mentorship program that’s really going to help you see what you don’t see. Yeah, the belief comes before the strategy. So if you’ve lost some belief and you’ve lost your way, you need to find a way of getting that spark back, and being in a mentorship group, being around some great people can really help that. So that’s the first thing that I think people need to do. You then, got to take stock of your life, and you’ve got to be accountable and start to get a really clear vision of where you want to be in one year, three years, five years and 10 years. The clearer you can be on that vision, the more likely you are to make it happen. I get off the grid once a year, and I do something called vivid vision. I get really clear on where we’re at and where we’re going, so that’s important, and then it’s about really knuckling down and learning some new strategies, because what you’ve been doing up until now may not have been working. It’s not serving you to the highest level. So you’ve got to say, hey, I need to be open to doing something. Income follows assets. Invest in assets in the stock market. Invest in physical assets like property, but just really start focusing in on building assets that’s going to generate your income, one day at a time, one pound at a time. Be patient and just allow compounding to kick in over the next 20 or 10 to 20 years. Yeah?
Awesome. Yeah. It took the words out of my mouth. I have to say it’s there’s a lot of crap out there. You have to get really clear about what it is you actually want. As I said in the earlier on, it’s having that, that goal. I do the same thing every December. We do the whole, you know, this big process that we do, me and my family, and I’ve done it with my clients as well, goal setting process, but being realistic about where you could be in a year, where you could be in two years. Otherwise it’s pie in the sky and there’s no plan. And I always say you get what you plan for, right? You plan a barbecue, it happens. You plan a holiday, it happens, right? Is, but what people don’t get is if they don’t plan their goals, so they just set goals, but don’t plan the goals, but you get what you plan for. So just an example, if you plan a seven day holiday, you probably spend about two hours planning that seven day holiday, right, which equates to about 1.6% of the total seven days, right? So if you want a successful year, you need to, if you apply that to the year, you need to spend about seven to 10 days planning that year to successfully pull off the year. And if you don’t, you can’t expect to possibly plan the year, right? So give more time to planning. Be really crystal clear about what it is you want and how far away you are from each of those. And then that will give you motivation for a start, and then be around the right people. We are like, you know, just for congruency, we’re in a mastermind together, which we pay for, which isn’t ours, and it’s, you know, there’s no bias there. And we do that because there’s a return like this opportunity here, we’re both on this podcast together because of that, because of that, yeah, and who knows what will come of this. You know, there’ll be your audience looking at me, my audience looking at Liam, and there’ll be loads of great relationships that come out of that. And and then, if it is the business side of thing, my last tip is to be customer focused. That is the reason I’m here with Liam. Like that. That is my thing. I just focus on getting results with people, because I know that they’ll tell someone and everyone wants what that person’s got. Yeah, you know, it’s no good. Me just going, I’m the I’m the greatest. It just doesn’t work. So focus on getting results with someone, and your life will just transform. It’s just amazing, awesome, man.


Well, I hope that both of our audiences have got some incredible value from this, hope so, and it will be great for us to do this again At some point in the future. Yeah, amazing, awesome, man.

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